June 23rd, 2012 09:40 EST
Adnan Oktar: "Madonna is a Beautiful Person"
(From Mr. Adnan Oktar`s live conversation on A9 TV)
When we met with Madonna, our topic was love. The love people feel for one another. Let me say this as a detail. We said that the spirit of love versus lovelessness in the world is 50 to 50 percent. Let us make 50, 51 percent and make the love triumph. Lovelessness has a kind of nullity, let us fill it. Let everyone love one another and be brothers. This was the main topic. We talked mainly about love with Madonna in that occasion. About loving everyone in the world; feeling affection for everyone, whether one is Christian or a Jew, whoever he may be. Let us approach everyone with compassion. What a beautiful style she has! How nice! And I ally with her in this issue.
... This lady could have no purpose in life; she could have merely enjoyed her life, and she could have been just thinking about her own pleasure, or just having fun. But it is so nice that she has a goal in life, she is after world peace. She is working for peace, friendship and brotherhood and she makes no discrimination. You would be left breathless if you ever saw the respect they showed me. They showed tremendous respect despite the fact that I am a Muslim. They believe in Kabbalah. They are presented by some as anti-Islam. Then what is the respect they show to me? What is the affection they show me? They want to cooperate with us for the reign of peace, of brotherhood in the world. They do not want any race or any religion to reign the world. They do not want any mischief. They want Hazrat Mahdi to appear. They say that they are the followers of Mahdi and that they lay the basis for Mahdi.
... There is one thing about Madonna of which people are largely unaware. She is someone who loves Allah and wishes for world peace, who wants the world to be one and is a great admirer of the King Messiah, Shiloh, someone who is awaiting the Mahdi.
... She looks at most meaningfully, in a lovely way, and those glances strongly attracted my attention. So I have complimented her very much, insha`Allah. Her children are really sweet, and I have cuddled them over and over again, they are really cute. I have pinched their cheeks. One of them, as I also described yesterday, came up for a cuddle as I was sitting there, and must have felt something very strong, masha`Allah.
They [Kabbalists] believe the King Messiah has come, the people around Madonna; she is a student of the Kabbala, as you know. Yehuda Berg, the leader of the Kabbalists, is someone I have spoken with many times and who likes me very much. He has come to be with me here many times and we have had long talks. Through Yehuda Berg, Madonna came here, to Istanbul. He was instrumental in our meeting.
... [Madonna] is a very modest person. She is humble, I mean she is not arrogant and does not put on airs, she is a very placid person. I saw a deep passion in her eyes. Her face is most expressive, and she is a really clever and intelligent person. Intelligent women have lovely expressions. And it is great how she has an ideal. She could have been quite hollow. There are many artists who just eat and drink and go to sleep, who just sing and dance. But she is not like that. She is striving for, and has a huge desire for world peace, world brotherhood, for everyone to believe in the one Allah, for an end to war and for an end to hunger.
... I saw Madonna as a person full of love, full of compassion. She is a well-meaning lady, a very humble person. Mr. Yehuda Berg as well, he is very down to earth, humble, very sincere in his efforts. It is obvious that they are not after money or any other material purposes. We can see it in everything they do, they don`t have a material goal.
Yesterday, I`ve met with Madonna, for about an hour.... I have also met that young man, her partner and she also has spiritual children, they are very sweet, I have stroked their cheeks. I have seen that Madonna is a beautiful person, she has beautifully colored eyes. I have complimented her, I said, "Your eyes are very beautiful." I paid several compliments to her. What else... She liked the carpet very much, she folded it herself and put it inside its cover. The children were very sweet. One of them came to me and hugged me. They were extremely sweet.
They have showed great courtesy and reverence, may Allah be pleased with them. Masha`Allah. There, Madonna had seen that Islam is actually not like the way the bigots misrepresent it to be, she saw this personally from us. That is because I have understood it from the love I saw in her eyes, from the kindness in her eyes. And I think that she will be far better. By this meeting, we have erased that bigot - Muslim image that she and many other people might have in their minds. Because the trust she felt there is very important. I mean you know she usually takes extraordinary security measures when accepting people but when I went there, there were no security measures taken. There was a complete love, a complete trust and complete confidence in between us. Her manners were very candid. Well, we`ve thus met. Of course there are many other details that I cannot tell. We were together for more than an hour. Insha`Allah (God willing).
...I saw that Madonna is a person full of love; I saw her approaching with exuberance. I saw that she was in very good faith, assuming a modest approach ... When Madonna came, that is when we met yesterday, I gave also that book of mine to her. I presented many of my books to her and informed her about the activities. She was very pleased with them. Masha`Allah.
Yes, Madonna is an performer but she has a cause. What does she want? She wants peace for the world, she wants brotherhood, just happiness for everyone. She might have wrong methods in doing so but she has a right cause. She wants the Mahdi system, and of course we will ally with her, we will team up with her to achieve that...
This brother of ours is asking; "What does Madonna say about her being a Kabbalist?" Well, that is correct, she is a Kabbalist. Being a Kabbalist, becoming one of the followers of the Kabbalah is not something to be surprised about. That is a study that goes way back in history. The important point here is to define whether or not these people are open to Islam and the Qur`an, whether or not they are open to the truth and the facts. This is what is important.
And there is also Rabbi Yehuda Berg, their leader. He has also come here as my guest several times. We met him and some of his other friends. He as well is a very modest, humane person who can be easily be spoken to. He [Yehuda Berg] is full of love towards Islam. He is quite fond of Muslims. He is very willing to talk to Muslims, he is very willing to communicate with them, he is very willing to meet them...
In fact, Mr. Yehuda Berg mediated the meeting with Madonna. I mean we`ve met with him being conducive. But this person is, as far as I see, a sympathetic person who looks at things positively, someone who genuinely wants people to be good. He is person who verily has a candid endeavor.
Consequently, let it be Kabbalist, a Jew or whoever he is, if he is open in the way of benevolence, in the way of positivity, if he is sincere, if he is open to ideas and if he is a person who can easily be adressed and if he can reach large masses, that person is a beneficient person in respect to Islam. That is the reason why I look into things positively and that is why I`ve met Madonna. For instance, that is also the reason why I met Rabbi Yehuda Berg. I consider them to be positive...
I am a person who thinks freely. I mean I get in contact with people from all schools of thought. I mean, if we were to look into things from this repect, according to these bigots we should never be in contact with the Christians, nor with the Jews and nor with Kabbalists. We should not be in contact with Buddhists. Yet I meet with people from all thoughts. If they are positive and sympathetic, if they side with good morality, if they are humane, I would like to meet them. Consequently I do meet them and have talks. And I will continue to talk to them, we will meet again.
To watch the comments of Mr. Adnan Oktar about his meeting with Madonna